tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1864230769854544092.post85831567729035684..comments2019-04-01T11:57:01.726-05:00Comments on As For Me and My House...: If I ever leave Fundamentalism, don't ask me why...Ellis Murphreehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10366467132733647443noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1864230769854544092.post-87764933552358783842007-08-02T10:17:00.000-05:002007-08-02T10:17:00.000-05:00Ryan,Thanks for commenting - I always appreciate w...Ryan,<BR/>Thanks for commenting - I always appreciate what you have to say and have been reading you every since the old FFF days...<BR/><BR/>While these things above likely weren't the immediate cause for your leaving Fundamentalism, I'm guessing that it was somewhat of a factor. During my time in the obnoxious side of the movement, I nearly left Fundamentalism altogether - these things were certainly factoring into my justification for the move.<BR/><BR/>I agree with you (to a point) about this stuff being part of a much larger segmant of Fundamentalism than what we fundies like to admit; however, I wouldn't classify Fundamentalism as a whole as "eaten up" with it. But again, I'm working off of personal experience and observation.<BR/><BR/>Here's a fun exercise, though. Google "independent fundamental baptist church" and see what kind of websites you find. The majority will be be KJVO, and a reading of the website will leave a rather interesting taste in your mouth....maybe you're more right than I am on this one, Ryan.Ellis Murphreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10366467132733647443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1864230769854544092.post-84528990987267103202007-07-28T09:49:00.000-05:002007-07-28T09:49:00.000-05:00I've been around too much in both Fundamentalism a...I've been around too much in both Fundamentalism and Evangelicalism, and heard from too many people to ever believe that:<BR/><BR/>(1) These problems are common in other sectors of evangelicalism.<BR/><BR/>(2) These problems are only present in a small minority of Fundamentalist churches.<BR/><BR/>Fundamentalism is eaten up with this kind of stuff that is unheard of elsewhere. <BR/><BR/>The immediate cause of my exodus from Fundamentalism wasn't a result of any of these things. But I can remember them being things that confused or bugged me. And it bugs just about everyone else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1864230769854544092.post-37170904073562424052007-07-17T08:37:00.000-05:002007-07-17T08:37:00.000-05:00Don,Thanks for pointing me to the article. I miss...Don,<BR/>Thanks for pointing me to the article. I missed it the first time around (I think it was posted during a point in time that I was immersed in a dictionary so I could better understand what Bixby was saying...)<BR/><BR/>There's a tremendous amount to chew on there, and I will likely be writing more on this subject later. In the meantime, I'm going to post a link to the article.<BR/><BR/>By the way, your point is well taken that Fundamentalism is much larger than my own personal experience.Ellis Murphreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10366467132733647443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1864230769854544092.post-22099115903916051892007-07-17T00:19:00.000-05:002007-07-17T00:19:00.000-05:00Hey Ellis, second comment... found your blog from ...Hey Ellis, second comment... found your blog from a link at someone else's site.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I think that the things you find distasteful are not the fault of fundamentalism itself. You will find many of these errors (or different ones) in almost every movement in relatively conservative Christianity.<BR/><BR/>I also would like to point out that you seem to be evaluating fundamentalism at large by your own experience. Somehow I think the picture is bigger than that.<BR/><BR/>As far as standards are concerned, did you happen to see the post by Bob Bixby this spring where he offered a paper by David Hesselgrave? It is really a quite balanced rationale for holding to Biblical standards (while not precisely defining standards as such). I am preaching a series on it this summer. The problem with the skirt thing (for example) is that it has become a pharisaical approach trying to define what is and isn't a modest skirt. The standard should be something like "cover the neck to the knees" for modesty's sake, but we need to relax on the precise definitions beyond something like that. <BR/><BR/>Currently in our area a company is publishing a billboard of a woman who is covered from the neck to the knees in what we would all agree is modest attire (unless you don't believe in showing ankles!!). But... the way she is posed is decidedly immodest.<BR/><BR/>My point is that the standard itself is one thing, but we really want to go far beyond merely setting a standard. We want a heart for God, which is much more than the standards.<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/>Don Johnson<BR/>Jer 33.3Don Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03332212749734904541noreply@blogger.com